plantroid

Topic: Color variation between thick and thin parts

Hello,

I am trying to develop standard color chips.  The actual parts to be anodized are .25mm thick Al 1060.  However, I've tried to create color chips that are 1mm thick 1060.  The problem is that the thicker material comes out a different color than the thin parts.  Is this to be expected?  Why does this happen, and what can be done about it?

Thanks in advance,

Dave

DustinGebhardt

Re: Color variation between thick and thin parts

Dave,

  Differences in color can come from many sources: oxide layer thickness, oxide layer porosity, differences in temperature during the process(es), differences in base material, etc


Are you sure that your 1mm samples are from the exact same stock as the 0.25mm parts?  Even slight differences in alloy can make a noticeable difference to the human eye.

The thicker parts may carry current more easily, allowing them to build up a potentially thicker oxide layer.  Have you checked the actual coating thickness on both parts?  In general, the thicker your coating, the more uniform your color will be.


-Dustin Gebhardt, CEF

Advanced Manufacturing/Finishing Engineer

Moen

Sanford, NC

plantroid

Re: Color variation between thick and thin parts

Thanks Dustin.  I'm working this issue through a supplier in China.  I'll use your thoughts as I work with them.  Do you find it common to develop color chips for anodize colors?

Regards,

Dave

AluConsult

Re: Color variation between thick and thin parts

Hi Dave

Great answers Dustin, just one more comment.

Even the same alloy with the same thickness can give color difference. What we need to talk about is the microstructure and not the alloy. Often the dispute is about alloy composition and the analysis shows that the alloy is the same and also in the specification range.

So why not the same color? the reason for this is the microstructure which can be totally different for the exact same alloy.

What you should do in this particular case is to be sure that both parts, thick and thin, have the same microstructure. Depending on the metallurgical history of the 0.25 mm part, you will know how to get the same microstructure for the 1 mm part.

I have to say that the easy way out is to have the same thickness of the standard color chips, and actually always have the actual part as a reference.

Sunny regards

Anne

www.anodizingworld.com

plantroid

Re: Color variation between thick and thin parts

Thanks, Anne.

DustinGebhardt

Re: Color variation between thick and thin parts

Thanks Anne, I was trying to explain the deal about the microstructure, but you've done it is far fewer words than I could find.


-Dustin Gebhardt, CEF

Advanced Manufacturing/Finishing Engineer

Moen

Sanford, NC